The roundup

25 08 2011

With the Spring Creek Basin roundup just about three weeks away, the time has come to address with more in-depth explanations what’s coming with regard to the Spring Creek Basin roundup. Along the same lines, I’d sure like to start discussions about what YOU are most interested in knowing. What are your concerns, fears, apprehensions regarding this roundup? I will answer as fully and candidly as possible – based on my knowledge. I can yak about things I *think* you’re interested in … but if you have something specific, please do ask. If I get enough questions, I may do a specific post, addressing each question, rather than leaving them in the comments sections.

My email – if you would rather not leave a public comment – is mtbgrrl (at) fone (dot) net.

A couple of disclaimers to start:

* I feel the need to explain this again: Because of the size of Spring Creek Basin (slightly less than 22,000 acres of high desert), it cannot support a population that is considered by many to be genetically viable on its own. Please don’t get carried away with some “certain” number that would make the Spring Creek Basin herd viable. The finite nature of the herd management area – and its water and forage resources – makes a population other than what the basin can physically support a moot point. To achieve that balance and maintain both herd and range health, this roundup and the removal of some horses is necessary.

* Because I will be working with BLM does not mean I am in full agreement with all its policies and/or procedures. In fact, quite a bit of the status quo that CAN be changed is what I am working very hard TO change. But we must work within the bounds of reality, and with that in mind, we have accomplished quite a bit here.

Follow this link to get to a PDF map of Spring Creek Basin Herd Management Area. Warning: It takes an obnoxiously long time to download – and I’m on a high-speed connection. Then, when it was “done,” it was black. I clicked the + button at the top to bring it into view. The blue line denotes the boundary of Spring Creek Basin, and the G at the western edge denotes the location of the trapsite.

So let’s talk about the roundup.

As a representative member of Disappointment Wild Bunch Partners and president of the Colorado chapter of the National Mustang Association, I will be involved with BLM during the roundup. As documenter of the herd, with specific knowledge of the horses, I will be intimately involved. This is not precedent-setting; it happens with at least three other herds I know of. It’s one of the things that most impressed me before I started documenting the Spring Creek Basin herd – and why I realized I had to make it happen here.

What it means is that I will be at the pens the entire time, attached at the hip, so to speak, to Jim Dollerschell, manager of the Little Book Cliffs herd, who will be at our roundup in the capacity of “contracting officer.” What that means in practical terms is that Jim has lots of experience, and Spring Creek Basin does not have a herd manager at present (though it is hoped one will be hired by the time of the roundup). Because of Jim’s specific experience as manager of the Little Book Cliffs herd – using native PZP successfully (their roundup this fall was canceled, remember) and working with an active and dedicated advocacy group (Friends of the Mustangs) – I am extremely grateful to be working with him, in particular.

My main duty will be to advise BLM about the identities of each horse captured, as well as advising BLM – and, in turn, the helicopter pilot, with whom Jim will be in contact via radio – of the identities of horses on the range, especially as it comes to bands that should NOT be targeted for roundup. Specifically, two of those bands will be Kreacher’s and Seven’s, which include Raven and Kootenai (in Kreacher’s band), and Mona (in Seven’s). The reasons here are two-fold: 1) Raven, Kootenai and Mona were introduced in 2008 for their genetics, needed in Spring Creek Basin to keep our own genetics strong. 2) Kootenai just had her foal, and Mona is due to foal Sept. 15, the day the roundup is scheduled to start. Beyond even what BLM says, it would, indeed, be a “PR nightmare” for very young foals to be killed during the roundup – especially when they’re *known.* The third band will be Ty’s, which includes yearling Puzzle and her dam, Chipeta, who is due to foal Sept. 1.

Bringing in by band

We have talked with BLM about bringing horses in by band – as opposed to large groups of unrelated horses. BLM has not made any promises whatsoever in this regard – I don’t believe it *can* make such promises. But the biggest problem, as I see it, is that no matter in what “organization” the horses come to the trapsite, they are immediately “processed” and sorted into gender-specific pens – in other words, separated from their families and put in with unfamiliar horses, which causes fighting among stallions as well as mares protecting foals. This has no bearing on the current roundup, but it’s worth saying: Keeping families together – until the point of actually selectively removing a particular horse or horses – is just one benefit of bait trapping. However, because of the very nature of the helicopter-driven roundups and related “efficiency,” I really don’t see how it could be done other than the way it will be done. (That it NEEDS to be done differently is one thing we’re working on!)

Dates/timing of release and number(s) of horses to be released

Some specifics here via what we learned at our meeting yesterday (Aug. 24): The horses to be released (including mares, who will get the PZP primer) will most likely be set free as soon as it is determined the roundup is over and no more horses will be captured. The roundup is scheduled to start Thursday, Sept. 15. Expectations are that it will last no more than a couple of days, but, of course, this is subject to on-the-ground realities such as weather conditions. Horses not going to adoption may be loaded onto trailers bound for Canon City by Saturday (Sept. 17), and the horses bound for adoption will be hauled to the fairgrounds Sunday (Sept. 18). I understand that’s because that is the soonest date the Montezuma County Fairgrounds will be available for them. The training demonstration by Ems Rapp and her Spring Creek Basin mustang, Rock On, will be held from 5 to 7 p.m. Friday, Sept. 23, with the adoption scheduled Sept. 24. The adoption details will be outlined in a separate post.

The contractor – Cattoor, same as in 2007 – is expected to arrive in Spring Creek Basin on Wednesday, Sept. 14, to set up, and the roundup is expected to start Thursday, Sept. 15. It is scheduled through Sept. 18, but it may or may not last that long, as noted above. BLM says about 10 horses likely will be released, but that number will depend entirely on the number of horses rounded up and the number left in the basin (not rounded up). We also have not specifically addressed how many horses will be left in the basin post-roundup. The low end of the AML is 35, but 43 were left in 2007 (unknown to BLM; the manager at the time thought 37 horses were left). We hope to use this precedent – as well as logic such as the use of PZP (with documented efficacy of at least 90 percent), no planned introductions of horses and the gender skewing – to leave at least this many horses after this roundup.

Mares to be released will be given the PZP primer (by Jim, hopefully with me being allowed to help) in the chute immediately before release. They will NOT be branded because of acknowledgment of my documentation – which will, of course, continue. (Of interest here is that BLM recently announced that it will pay for the PZP to be administered to Spring Creek Basin mares; NMA/CO had offered to pay for PZP for a period of five years (the expected length of the fertility control EA).)

In addition to saying it’s likely 10 horses will be released, BLM also says (in the Decision Record, at least) that the released horses will likely be six stallions and four mares. In a perfect world, that would represent a 60%/40% stallion-t0-mare ratio. In the real world, BLM cannot know (none of us can) what the make-up of the herd will be when BLM ends the roundup and prepares to release horses. In 2007, still espousing the gender-skewing goal, BLM released five mares, the weanling filly of one of those mares and four stallions (with Traveler released nearly a month later). As it turned out, there was still quite a significant split between mares and stallions. BLM had no idea then of the post-roundup stallion-to-mare ratio before it released those horses. This time, we’ll know – exactly – and the numbers/genders to be released can accurately reflect that. (To be clear, gender skewing is not something NMA/CO (at least) supports, but it was a battle we chose not to fight at this time.)

Contractor behavior

We also have repeatedly asked that the contractors give the horses time to settle in the first pen at the trapsite instead of being choused by the contractor’s cowboys using plastic bags on the ends of whips/sticks after the horses have just been run for miles and captured in pens and are then sent immediately into the chute for “processing.” Again, no promises have been made here – other than they will bring it up to the contractor. However, I believe this is behavior that should not be tolerated unless it is specifically warranted in a specific situation. Wild horses – like other wild animals – move away from pressure, a human being a great pressure. Example: At the last Little Book Cliffs roundup (also in 2007, just a few weeks after ours), only once did the volunteers need to use a plastic bag. Two very small bands came in together – as I recall, a stallion with one mare and a stallion with two mares (with a foal or yearling?). In the close confines of the alley leading to the pens, the bag was used to separate the stallions – then immediately put away.

Yelling and screaming and waving those things in the faces of wild horses that have just been on a terrifying run ahead of a helicopter and then penned with no way out is NOT the time to use it. We reiterated this plea at our meeting yesterday and will continue to do so.

Selection process

Now, about the “selection process,” the thought that prompted this post in the first place (much of this is pre-typed (though, I admit, oft-edited); I was waiting for information from yesterday’s meeting to post it). I want to emphasize here that this is MY philosophy, and based on MY knowledge of the Spring Creek Basin mustangs. This is necessarily tempered by the reality of what I think BLM is most likely to accept.

Part of my selection process is genetics, and the other real part of it is “adoptability.”

I’m going to address specific language in the Decision Record (and in the EA). (If you wonder why I use “roundup” instead of “gather” in my writing, it’s because this is, in fact, rounding up horses – capturing them against their will – sorting them and removing “excess.” “Gather” assumes some gentleness – some emotion. I can be emotional (and will be) as the day is long about these horses – my horses – but logic has gotten me this far, and it has earned me a reputation with local BLM that, in turn, earned me a place at the table (or at the pens). I defend the need for this roundup, but I absolutely will not call it a “gather.”)

According to the Decision Record: “Animals captured within the HMA would be removed using a selective removal strategy. Any horse gathered from outside the HMA would be removed and not relocated in the HMA. Selective removal criteria for the HMA include: (1) First Priority: Age Class – Four Years and Younger; (2) Second Priority: Age Class – Eleven to Nineteen Years Old; (3) Third Priority: Age Class Five to ten years old. Up to 10 of the captured wild horses would be released; of these, about 4 would be mares and about 6 would be studs.”

First, there are currently NO horses outside Spring Creek Basin, so I think this is formal language “just in case.” In 2007, several horses were outside the herd management area. One was moved into the herd area from private property and remains – David. One currently serves with the U.S. Border Patrol on the U.S.-Canada border from Washington state – Justice. (If you’ll allow me some pride … Justice also was one of the 10 Border Patrol mustangs that marched in President Obama’s inauguration parade – just 18 months after he was captured. (An FYI – he was aged at 10 by the contractors – and ripe for removal, no questions asked – but at Canon City, he was determined to be no older than 5.)) And about four horses were captured outside the southwest end of the basin.

Second, my strategy for “selective removal” is genetics-first – because I KNOW quite a bit of the genetics, especially of the adoptable-age horses. BLM goes with age because that’s what it knows (based on the contractor’s expertise in aging by teeth … which wasn’t all that great in 2007, as it turned out (even according to BLM)).

Third … which is related to second … is that I’ll be looking at a combination of genetics AND ages – especially as it relates to “adoptability” – or the fact that horses between the ages of 1 and 4 are most likely to be *offered* for adoption – especially locally, immediately after the roundup.

I will NOT make public the horses on the lists that I have given BLM, but these are the categories: STAY (I will say that Traveler and the introduced horses, at least, are on this list), should stay, can go, can go or can stay. This idea of having multiple lists came from Matt Dillon of the Pryor Mountain herd, to allow flexibility, and I think it’s excellent, so I adopted it (Matt has been a great inspiration over the years in many ways). Necessarily, maybe, the “can go or can stay” category has the most names.

*** Please (I really beg you), don’t appeal to me for your favorite horse(s). As important as I believe this duty to be, and as absolutely grateful as I am to our local BLM folks who have afforded me this opportunity, it’s going to just about kill me to make these decisions. I am trying to make decisions that I can defend logically, that BLM will accept and that will benefit the herd as a whole. Please, please do not make it any harder.

BLM says about half the horses rounded up will be offered for adoption and about half will be sent to Canon City. (Horses CAN be adopted from Canon City, and people can request halter (and saddle) training by inmates at the Canon City facility, to then be transported to the adopter’s home.) Realistically, this will depend on the number and make-up of the horses actually captured and removed.

BLM’s rationale for the half-half deal is that in 2007, only about 13 of the 32 available horses were adopted. As BLM says, it’s a bad economy, the horse market in general is in the tank, and the mustang-adoption market itself is down considerably from happier times.

But here’s “the rest of the (hi)story”: In 2006, BLM held a mustang adoption in Pagosa Springs, in southern Colorado, about 100 miles from the site of the 2007 adoption (it will be here again: Montezuma County Fairgrounds, on U.S. Highway 160 a few miles east of Cortez, Colo.). In 2005, a post-roundup adoption of Spring Creek Basin mustangs was held. So three adoptions in three years? That would tend to “saturate” even a bad market, yes? At the previous adoption – in 2000 – almost all the horses were adopted, according to NMA/CO memory. One of my goals for future sustainable management of this herd is to *create* a market for our Spring Creek Basin mustangs by making offerings somewhat “rare” – infrequent with few(er) horses.

BLM roundup information hot line

A BLM hot line will be available with information about the roundup: Tom Rice, associate manager of the Dolores Public Lands Office and deputy district ranger for the Dolores District of San Juan Public Lands, will update a message by about 10 p.m. each night about that day’s roundup activities. People can call that hot line at this number: (970) 882-6843 (his office number). The time will depend on the day’s activities and how soon he can get away to locate cell service. (Cell service within the basin – within the entire Disappointment Valley area – is bad at best.

I have thought about trying to figure out a way to post updates to the blog through my cell phone, and if I have a strong enough signal, I will surely do so. I am almost positive I won’t be able to post any photos until I return to civilization, which likely won’t be until at least Monday (Sept. 19). I plan to be at the roundup every single day, until the last horse is gone, the last panel is loaded and the second-to-last human being (me being the last) has left his dust on the road. I’ll apologize in advance for being publicly incommunicado during that time, but honestly, I won’t be thinking about the blog a whole lot.

Public observation

I want to talk about observation for a minute. This is a little up in the air with regard to FAA rules about safety of people (and horses) with proximity to the helicopter. In 2007, observers were situated on the rim of Spring Creek Canyon, above the creekbed through which the horses run on the way to the pens, and on a hill “behind” the pens – the route of the horses brought them to the pens almost directly in front of this hill. Until BLM talks with the contractor and pilot, we won’t know for sure where observers can be, but BLM told us that as of now, they plan to allow observation from the hill as before but probably not from the top of the canyon. Local BLM has told us they are committed to transparency, and close observation such as this has been a great thing about roundups here in the past.

Also, we have been told that in this age of “social media,” every/anyone can be considered a “journalist.” What that means in terms of the roundup is that media and public will be treated no differently. If the media can be in a spot, the public can be in that spot and vice versa.

BLM public information specialists are working on a flier/brochure about roundup/visiting etiquette that will be given to observers upon entrance to the basin. This is important: THE BASIN WILL NOT BE CLOSED DURING THE ROUNDUP – unless there is a safety issue. First flights each morning will likely begin around 7 a.m.


Another word (or more) about safety: An APHIS (Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service) veterinarian will be onsite, a veterinarian with a clinic in San Miguel County (most of the basin is in San Miguel County) will draw blood for Coggins testing, and a local Montezuma County veterinarian (Dr. Sue Grabbe, who has been present at the last two or so roundups) will be onsite again at the request of NMA/CO to observe the roundup for safety of the horses.


Finally, I promise to be candid about the event. I won’t defend BLM and/or the contractor if something “untoward” happens – and/or I’ll explain the event/why it happened (such as the mare that was mistakenly put in with the stallions in 2007) – but neither will I allow attacks via this blog on any of them for doing their jobs. We – BLM and our own advocates – have made every effort to ensure this roundup runs as smoothly and as safely – for horses and for humans – as possible.


This is going to be a difficult thing … but it’s something our groups have spent the last four years (specifically) working on to ensure that safety – and other management considerations such as fertility control implementation. Literally, we started almost immediately after the 2007 roundup. Nothing happens with government overnight, and it has taken every one of those years to get where we are now. We’re not done. We’re not going away.

It will always remain the priority of the Disappointment Wild Bunch Partners (and each of our individual groups) to maintain the highest level of welfare for our Spring Creek Basin mustangs.



8 responses

26 08 2011

Well done TJ. Good luck and I hope that all goes well. I will be thinking of you. I know how hard this is

26 08 2011
Lynn and Kathy

Guess we got a little “lost” in all this stuff, but exactly HOW MANY mares will be treated with PZP and released?

27 08 2011

Thanks, Billie … I know you’ve been through this before … and thank you for “loaning” Jim to us …!

L&K – Neither BLM nor I can say for sure right now how many mares will be released, let alone how many will be treated (either upon release or in the future). That is completely dependent upon the roundup – how many horses are brought to the trapsite – and how many remain – and how many horses BLM decides to leave. We are arguing for BLM to not go to the very bottom of the AML (because we’re going to use effective native PZP as well as do the gender skewing), but that will be decided at the roundup. Hopefully, not only will there be some “wiggle room” as far as numbers but as far as the reality of other factors (such as genetics) that has been made available by my documentation. It’s almost like buying a house – how much is “$1,000” worth in negotiating price? How much are a coupla-few “extra” horses worth to the overall value (health) of the herd? Especially when we’re starting with such a small number anyway?

All I can tell you right now are “expectations” BLM has: BLM “expects” to release “about 10 horses” … “about four mares” and “about six stallions.” This is to get to the 40%/60% mare-to-stallion gender ratio. But that’s in a perfect world, assuming a 100% number to begin with. In reality, those numbers will absolutely depend upon who is rounded up – and, more effectively, who is NOT (who is left in the basin). By the time enough horses are rounded up to stop the roundup (with enough horses to release), we could be looking at a not-rounded-up ratio that will make necessary the release of more horses and/or a different number of mares to stallions – based on what is NOT rounded up. All I can really say for sure right now (based on the EA and what BLM has said) is that ALL the mares that are rounded up and then released will be treated with the PZP primer. I know that doesn’t help much, but that’s why I’ve been cautioning about these numbers. They’re really just “expectation” or speculation at this point.

27 08 2011
Linda Horn

I’m so glad you’ll be out there the whole time, have a seasoned CO in Jim, and good folks observing with you, especially the vets. Humane handling and welfare should be paramount, and I know observers will speak up if they see anything outside the safety parameters.

I sure hope the ‘copter brings them in as slow and easy as possible, and the wranglers use flags only when absolutely necessary and in the correct manner.

I’ll be praying all goes well for the Mustangs, those handling them, and everyone else. And I’ll be sending you all the strength I can as you face this difficult and emotional challenge.

27 08 2011
Toppyrocks/ Rachel

I’m sure it will be very sad for anyone to see some ‘favourite’ horses to leave, but I know for me that for me, I would much rather see horses go if they have a higher chance of being adopted.

I’m very glad that someone like you can be there, TJ, because you know the horses so well and I’m sure that any knowledge about them will be very helpful for the mustangs.

Good luck with the roundup, and I hope it isn’t too difficult to work with the BLM.

27 08 2011

One of the most important things I want people to know about this roundup is that BLM is working WITH us – and vice versa. It doesn’t mean nothing will go wrong, of course, but I think the likelihood of this roundup running as well as possible are very high. Thank you so much, Linda, for your prayers and strength – we’ll still need all we can get.

Rachel – I feel exactly the same way, and hopefully our adoption will be successful! Truly, the current crop of BLM folks has been wonderful to work with.

3 09 2011
James Anaquad Kleinert


If your so concerned about the wild horses why did you choose not to attend the incredibly powerful and educational screening of Wild Horses & Renegades in Telluride this past week? The film presents powerful investigative journalism, featuring the former Director of the BLM Jim Baca.
Wild Horses & Renegades recently was awarded Special Mention for investigative Journalism at the prestigious International Wild Life Film Festival.
In the interview I recorded filmed of you in 2007 you say that the Spring Creek Horses were in good condition and health when there were roughly 120 horses on the range then. Now your changing your story. . . ?

You really need to start reading blogs like R.T. Fitch and the Cloud Foundation.

You have obviously crawled into bed with blm. Good Luck.

James Anaquad Kleinert – Director

4 09 2011

James … 😦 … If you’re so concerned, where have you been these four years while we’ve been working to bring change to the management of Spring Creek Basin mustangs? I didn’t think the horses rounded up in 2007 were in good condition, so no, I don’t believe I’m changing my story. I thought they were very lean then. What I wonder about is your portrayal of what I said … And that was four years ago – your interview of me was three, three and a half years ago? Also, I didn’t know exactly how many horses were on the range in 2007 – or when you interviewed me (based on BLM numbers, until recently, about the closest I could narrow it down was between 110 and 120). By that fall – after the roundup, when the pressure on the range was lessened (considerably), yes, I saw the horses bounce back into very good condition. And they’re in great condition now – with fewer horses now than then. Would you rather they be in such condition that an emergency roundup is necessary? I’d rather have them face the roundup in excellent condition. I will NEVER side with those who advocate “let nature take its course” (starvation) on fenced-in ranges with finite resources. Many things need to be exposed about BLM and the Wild Horse & Burro Program, and I thank you – and others – for doing it. I do what I do for the horses, not for BLM, not for awards. By working hard, we’ve done more than rely on luck. But thank you for that … we need it, too.

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