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6 02 2016

Kestrel and Comanche

That moment just before the touch. Comanche and Kestrel have been together for a very long time – another bust to the myth that PZP’d mares will cause chaos by continuously changing bands.

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6 02 2016
puller9

They were a couple before she was treated with PZP? Had she had foals by Comanche? It also helps when the treated mares REMAIN with their stallions, I think.

6 02 2016
TJ

Keep in mind that it’s not *unusual* for mares to change bands – when stallions steal them or maybe they decide to make a change (for whatever reason). “Monogamy” (if you can say that in a harem situation!) between mares and stallions isn’t a horse thing – it’s what humans like to see because it’s comforting to us.

Several years ago at a roundup, someone misidentified a stallion because of a notable mare that came in with his band. That person didn’t recognize or realize that dynamics within bands can and do change. The mare had changed bands (whether stolen or otherwise).

That all said, Kestrel and Comanche have had a few foals together. Most of our bands are very stable, even with PZP … but they can and do change – even without PZP, which was kind of my point. πŸ™‚

6 02 2016
Sue Story

Such a beautiful photo TJ, all the soft shades of brown and white echoing back and forth between mustangs and landscape.

6 02 2016
TJ

Nature’s shades. πŸ™‚

6 02 2016
Kerry O'Brien

Well said. Herd dynamics are so interesting. The common cry about “families” is so anthropomorphic. What science is discovering is mares are calling the shots. They’re like Italians. πŸ™‚

6 02 2016
TJ

We talked a little about this when you were here. I think “family” is descriptive, not necessarily anthropomorphic. Family bands are just that, and like humans, it can follow different paths of “normal.” Left alone, the horses determine their own parting. When humans determine that parting, it’s often violent and in a situation of general trauma. We’ve known for a long time that an alpha mare is the true leader of a family band, but the horses definitely are family oriented. I’ve observed way too much and for way too long to think any differently. πŸ™‚

6 02 2016
Lynn and Kathy

Amen! Well said!! πŸ™‚

6 02 2016
TJ

πŸ™‚

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